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John W. Cater
 

How to remove green from shade shots


I am a serious amateur. I have a good foundation in basic photography skills but certainly do not know it all. I occasionally do portrait work in heavily shaded areas -- shaded by trees. Even with flash, I sometimes have a significant green tint to my photographs. I'm thinking about color compensation filters but I don't know anyone who uses them regularly. Can anyone recommend a good CC filter(s) for this situation? I'm thinking maybe a CC30R? Is that too strong, not strong enough, completely wrong? Thanks. John


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July 16, 2002

 

Jeff S. Kennedy
  Green huh? Typically shots made in the shade (so to speak) have a blue cast to them. This can be overcome by using a warming filter. You don't say whether you are shooting negative or positive film. If it's negative you could be getting a green cast because your lab is trying to compensate for the blue and making it green instead. Just a guess. I'd try a warming filter and talk to your lab about the color balance of the shots.


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July 16, 2002

 

John W. Cater
  I am shooting film, not slides. The cast is distinctly green -- maybe because I usually shoot when the sun is shining very bright and all the light bouncing around off the leaves is casting a green tint on my subject. The lab is not the problem b/c I do not let them make ANY color or density corrections to my prints. John


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July 16, 2002

 

Jeff S. Kennedy
  Well, as I said I'd try the warming filter and see how that works. I would also allow the lab to do some color correction. Don't make life difficult on yourself. That's one of the advantages of shooting negative (film) over positive (film).


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July 17, 2002

 

John W. Cater
  I'll give the warming filter a try, but as I understand warming filters, they reduce/eliminate blue, not green. Maybe I am mistaken. I agree that a lab CAN be helpful in correcting exposure/color mistakes by the photographer; however, the labs in my area (only two) let the machines make the corrections and I have not been impressed. My shots, uncorrected, are usually better. I would still like to hear an opinion from someone who uses the red range of CC filters. Thanks for your suggestion, Jeff. I'll give it a try and let you know what happens. The problem is that it doesn't happen EVERY time I'm under heavy tree shade. As I write this, I think maybe the problem is the proximity to the leaves. It seems that in the shots with the green tint, the limbs may have been just overhead (within 3 feet) of the subject whereas the other shots (good ones) have been under towering trees. Don't know if that would make a difference. I think I may need to test that situation again.


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July 17, 2002

 

Jeff S. Kennedy
  Yeah, green foliage can definitely do that. I recommend trying the warming filter because, as you say, it probably doesn't happen every time. If you use a more specialized CC filter the effect may be too obvious (weird skin tones). Whereas a warming filter will look good under most light and may help reduce the green cast. My other thought is that the green cast may be exagerrated by the blue light you find in shade on clear days.


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July 17, 2002

 

John A. Lind
  John,
The two clues for me:
(1) You're using color negative film.
(2) It doesn't happen every time you're under trees.

I'm wondering if your lab isn't doing proper color balancing in making your prints. It's time to talk to the *manager* of the lab. Even a one-hour can "let" the machine do its automagical thing, but a decent one doesn't.

Also . . .
If you are asking for *zero* color balancing, they may be taking you quite literally and dialing out any machine calibration they have done! This alone can cause your color balancing to wander around over time. Why? The enlarger lamp isn't daylight. It must be corrected to get proper colors on a print, even from a "golden" test film strip. Furthermore, enlarger lamps shift color temperature as they age. If you ask for zero color correction, ensure they are at least calibrating the print machine for their enlarger lamp and keeping that correction dialed in.

-- John


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July 22, 2002

 

John W. Cater
  I'll give your suggestions a try and let you know how it goes. Thanks for the advice guys.

John


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July 25, 2002

 
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