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Terry M. Gunderson
 

Film Vs. CCD


Every time lately that I have opened a magazine I see articles about how to get the colors of a digital picture to look the same printed as they do on your monitor, and how to get the monitor to show the same colors as your camera recorded them. Most of these are in depth and are quite technical. With all these "extra" steps why even bother going digital?


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October 21, 2004

 

George F. Howard
  Because you can print all of your photos at home the way you want them - not the way a tech at the photo lab thinks you want them.


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October 21, 2004

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Not everybody has to do that. But if it's an extra step that you're worried about, we always have choices. Just do what you have a use for and what you have fun with.


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October 21, 2004

 

RJ Baynum
 
 
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F16, 125 seconds, 5pm, (Kodak Elite 200 slide film) Shiloh National Military Park, Shiloh TN.
A Monument for Michigan Infantry who fought and died in this great and very bloody battle in the Civil war

RJ Baynum

 
 
It comes back from the tech with the CORRECT color.. Not What you "think" is right. True color is true color. Use a mac beth card. Maybe if you payed attention to what you was doing , before you snapped the shutter, you would not nearly have the problems as you think you do.
Slide film in a Film Camera of Good quailty, is still better in color saturation, intensity, better in low light, and firing the shutter is not prolonged. Also Optics and better glass..
And it is still cheaper all the way around, simple and easy to use the long run. Even more so if you know what your doing, which is not that Hard! People are just lazy, and everthing around us in this world reflects it. God forbid you would have to THINK about a shot BEFORE you take it..
People who think Digital is all that, really have no clue about Photography, or want to learn the craft properly.
Point and shoot auto everthing. A week later.. thier opening up a business.. because they bought a Fancy Digital camera with bells and whistles you don't really need , which was put there for simple people to go oooohh.. and aahh over. And suddenly .. their a photographer..
I't not that simple .. and never will be for anything great. To be good at something, learning ect takes hard work.
And for good reason. Crap in ...is Crap out..

R.J. Baynum
Envision Imaging
Crump TN.
USA


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October 26, 2004

 

Ken Henry
  Pretty well hard put R.J., and good. But, see below, I have more details.

Terry...Professional Graphic Artists do not have this problem, because they have the correct equipment, which I and maybe you too can not afford. PGA's, Ad Agencies and Printers all use the identical international color balance codes.

You get what you pay for.

Being a GOOD photographer is not only taking pictures. The other HALF of your photo work is knowing how to make YOUR OWN color corrections from your 4x6 proofs(digital or film) and giving them back to the lab tech with the instructions for reprints. Even at Walmart. YES, you do pay for the reprint corrections.

Or you spend your own hours on the computor figuring it out yourself.

1. No lab tech(including pro labs) knows what you have seen, regarding color and how light/dark your subject is, digitaly or negative film.
2. EVERY labs' machines ARE NOT CALIBRATED identically. And they process to medium grey.
3. There are over 20 different photo machine mfrs who have their own set of calibrations. THEY DO NOT MATCH EACH OTHER.
4. And these labs all use different photo paper...Kodak, Agfa, Fuji, etc., which have their own INDIVIDUAL color pallets.
5. Consumer PC's and programs will suck hours and money from you.

I can take my card, CD or film to my Graphic Artist. View it on his Mac professional equipment($1,000's of dollars here). Make the necessary color and density corrections in a matter of minutes. And print a perfect picture.

Slide film is the only accurate medium, but I still make 4x6 proofs before I make an enlargement.

For now, Ken


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October 31, 2004

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  you get differences between one type of slide film to the next also.
I think most people could look at something and tell "that looks right" if they quit freakin' out before hand.


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November 01, 2004

 

Ken Henry
  Yeah...that's right Gregory. All film for that matter.

And don't forget, lenses...I use primes and each one has it's own color pallet.

My 17mm Tokina appears to have very blue skies. My 35mm PC Nikon tends to be warm, towards yellow.

I'm glad nothing is perfect...I would be board to death.

Take a picture a 2pm and another at 3pm. Same subject...a change in colors.

ken


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November 01, 2004

 

Ken Henry
  Original question.

You can go digital without a computer. Just give the lab your card.

I email my images direct from my card to my local lab. The next day I pick up my 4x5.3" prints(A75 Canon size) or they will mail the prints to you. It's better than what I can print out.

And I email back any corrections to the lab. Done!

If you want to go computer and be hassle free then you will need to do what pros do.
Buy pro Equipment! And take graffic art classes, photoshop etc., at your local college.

I only spent $3,000 on my computer system and it will not perform to high standards.

You get what you pay for..............

ken


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November 01, 2004

 

Gordon
  Here we go again, film vs digital.

I agree wholehaertedly with much of what has already been said here. But I can think of two practical drawbacks of scanning.

The first is time. It often takes quite a lng time to scan a single negative at high resolution.

The second is dust. If you use a flatbed scanner, it's next to impossible to keep the entire plate completely dust free. Expect to spend some more time touching-up to remove dust.

However, those of us who are used to film, and have several cameras in different formats, don't want to go changing all our kit just because the photographic manufacturers decide that we really should all buy thier latest offerings. (Frankly the build quality of some of the equipment produced in the past five or ten years leaves something to be desired.)

Furthermore, I don't yet see any practical or affordable medium or large format digital cameras, and don't expect to for quite some time. So if I need to digitise a 6x6cm format negative, or even bigger I have to scan.


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December 14, 2005

 
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