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Isaac Smith
 

Problems with Asahi Pentax K1000


 
 
I have an Asahi Pentax K1000 that is currently not working. I am (relatively) new to photography, and I've had other problems with this camera before. Currently, I am using my camera for an art project, so I do need these pictures. The problem I have been having has stopped me, though. I have gotten good pictures from this camera before, and it is definitely an excellent camera, but with the last two rolls of film that I developed, I recieved no prints at all. With the first of the two rolls, the film never advanced. The issue is with the second of two rolls. I bought a roll of film at Wal*Mart (I don't think that has anything to do with it, but maybe it's the film?); it was Kodak UltraColor 400 speed film. When I took the film over to Wal*Mart to have it developed, I was promptly called back to the photography department only to be told that the film was ruined. I have pictures of the camera, the film, etc. below (or wherever they are; this is my first post). I don't know if the problem is with the camera or with the film. The roll of film, which did advance (unlike the last one) yeilded no pictures, so I don't know what's happened. Please answer quickly.

- Isaac


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February 09, 2006

 

Isaac Smith
 
 
  Back of Pentax
Back of Pentax
I figured I'd let you guys take a look at the camera first. Here's the back of it.

Isaac Smith

 
  Front of Pentax
Front of Pentax
Here's the front of the camera. I feel like I'm getting ready to auction it on eBay. That isn't going to happen.

Isaac Smith

 
  Ruined film
Ruined film
Here's the film that the Pentax ruined. Everything on the side has been ripped off, and the starter of the film was ripped when I took it out of the camera.

Isaac Smith

 
  Pentax and film
Pentax and film
Here's the Pentax K1000 and the film that it ruined. I'm not that happy with it, but not willing to give it away. From what I've gathered, it's worth more because it was made in Japan. Although, I don't think it's worth very much at the moment, because it doesn't work. By the way, all these pictures were taken with a Fuji Finepix S5100.

Isaac Smith

 
 
Sorry, I misunderstood how to get the pictures uploaded. Here they are (hopefully...):


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February 08, 2006

 

Samuel Smith
  welcome isaac,
did you take the lens cap off?
does the shutter click?
can you hear the film advance?
the film your using has not been out that long so I would't think that is your problem.just a little more info without the chatter.
sam


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February 08, 2006

 
- Darren J. Gilcher

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  Isaac, Was the roll that didn't advance properly loaded? I have had a Pentax K1000 for 23 years and when I load the film I tighten the film a little with the rewind knob so that I can see it turn every time I wind after a shot. I had a problem one time when I loaded the film wrong and the wind wheel cogs didn't grab the film so the wheel just turned and didn't pull the film. But don't tighten the rewind knob too much in case it's not loaded right or it will rewind the film back into the spool. You can also check by opening the back without any film in it and winding to see if the wind wheel is turning. You'll have to snap the shutter every time you wind so it will wind again. How was the second roll ruined? Is it possible the store did it? Good luck!


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February 08, 2006

 
- Darren J. Gilcher

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  Now that I see the stripped film make sure the cogs on the wind wheel line up with the holes in the film and I think there is a little wheel that sticks through just to the right of the shutter with cogs that keeps tract of the lenght of the wind. Make sure it will turn and isn't locked up and stripping the film.


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February 08, 2006

 

Isaac Smith
  Lens cap off - yes.
Shutter click - yes.
Film advancing - yes.

The first roll of film was me loading the film incorrectly. I have looked at the inner mechanics of the camera to see if it's working, and it is. I don't think it's possible that the store did it, but I'm unfamiliar with the way that Wal*Mart develops photos in the 1-hour photo department. Everything was working fine when I loaded the second roll of film. When it was loaded, it didn't lock and wasn't stripping the film. What possiblities does that leave?


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February 08, 2006

 

Samuel Smith
  i think darren might be on the right track.the film is just not advancing.


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February 08, 2006

 
- Darren J. Gilcher

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  I think I'm confused. Was the stripped film the film Walmart said was ruined or the first that didn't advance?


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February 08, 2006

 

Isaac Smith
  The stripped film is the film that Wal*Mart said was ruined. I just had it developed today, and I was hoping for some good pictures off that roll. I guess I won't be getting them.


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February 08, 2006

 
- Darren J. Gilcher

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  I don't know how the lab machines work but, I would think there is some way the film is fed into it. If you didn't hear any sounds of the film being damaged I would think it could be the store. It's just a guess at this point. I suppose you could try another roll as a test but I suppose it gets expensive.
Good Luck.. Let us know what happens


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February 08, 2006

 

Isaac Smith
  Thanks for the luck. I might need it. Very fortunately, I did just buy a roll of the cheapest film I could find. I was going to ruin it on purpose for the project, (What we're doing in art class is complicated, and I don't feel like explaining it now.) so I guess I'll just use that and see what happens. I'm not very willing to use up another roll of the good film, though. If I did, then things would get very expensive.


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February 08, 2006

 
- Darren J. Gilcher

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  Definitely, let me know how the come out..


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February 08, 2006

 

Isaac Smith
  Some information that may be helpful:

While I was taking the pictures, the camera made no weird sounds. There was nothing to let me know that something was wrong.

After I had taken all the pictures, and was rewinding the film, nothing weird happened for a while. Then, while rewinding the film, I head a crack. It had just become harder to rewind it than previously, and when I opened the back of the camera to get the film out, there was a lot of dust from the film, and the starter had broken off. I have had the starter break off before, but even out of that roll I got some good pictures. Perhaps the problem is with the rewinding mechanism?


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February 09, 2006

 

Tom Walker
  next time you rewind, hold the rewind button in untill you're finished, they're sup[posed to stay in once you start winding but sometimes they don't, which locks up the little axle with the perforation notches on it. you can usually tell because the winding gets harder, if you force it, it will at the least rip out the perforations and can do more damage.


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February 09, 2006

 

Isaac Smith
  I heard nothing odd as I rewound the film. I did, however, hear and feel the film break. The leader was the only thing that broke off, though. I think it has to be a problem in the rewinding mechanism, though, because the leader is fine. What can I do to fix this, though? Is it better to simply purchase a new camera?


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February 10, 2006

 
- Darren J. Gilcher

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  Maybe try a cheap roll of film and just waste the entire roll and open the back and watch it rewind. Maybe you will be able to see the problem. Some photo shops do repairs, maybe it wouldn't be to expensive. I can't understand how the entire roll rewinds fine and then just the leader breaks off...Good luck


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February 10, 2006

 

Will Turner
  I think Tom has the answer. As K1000s age the rewind button tends to pop out especially if the camera is rewound in a jerky or uneven manner. Try depressing the rewind button and holding it in position until the film is completely rewound. This should eliminate the tearing of your film.


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February 11, 2006

 

Mark Feldstein
  Greetings Isaac: Even if the rewind button popped out, the film stuck and then the sprockets tore out, as long as you got the film back into the cassette you should be ok.

Two suggestions: First, take the camera and lens to a reputable repair shop for a cleaning, lubrication and adjustment. They'll check it out mechanically and tell you if something is wrong with the camera or lens or both.

The foregoing assumes that there was something on the returned film. Whether frame markings, frame numbers, something. If there were no images whatsoever on the film returned from Walmart, including frame numbering, shoot another roll, say 20 exposures or even less, FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO PROCESS the film and see what happens. Completely blank (unless the entire roll is black rather than clear) indicates a problem with the lab, not the camera.
Take it light.
Keep in touch and let us know what you find or figure out.
Mark


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February 11, 2006

 

Isaac Smith
  Well, unless I want to drive for a couple of hours, there's one camera repair shop in the area. I did open up the back of the camera and watch the film rewind. It is stripping little pieces off the film.

I did make a call to Wilson's Camera (which is the camera repair shop), who said that I should shoot a cheap roll of film, and then they would develop the film in a dark room and try to assess the problem. If there is in fact a problem with the camera, though, they will have to ship it back to Japan, because Wilson's is an authorized Canon and Nikon camera repair shop, not Pentax.


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February 11, 2006

 

Samuel Smith
  i hope your camera served you well?


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February 11, 2006

 
- Darren J. Gilcher

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  Sorry to hear it Isaac. I thought Toms idea would work. Hope you don't have to send it to Japan. You should probably take it yourself. That would be a nice trip...Good luck!


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February 11, 2006

 

George Anderson
  Sounds like the rewind button mechanism is completely inoperative. You could pull the bottom plate and check to see if a gear has popped out of train or a piece of film or debris is jamming the gearing.

The K1000 is a sturdy camera but it was a bottom line model and certainly isn't worth sending to Japan for repair! (there are many shops that will repair this model in the US, BTW.)

If want something a little more advanced (popping the lens cap on and off to turn off the lightmeter, etc.) you might want to upgrade to a more advanced Pentax with a better lightmeter, DOF preview, etc. If you like mechanical cameras, a clean MX in working condition goes for about $100 these days on ebay, KEH.com, etc.


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February 12, 2006

 
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