If you are in the above class, use this thread to comment on student photos..."> If you are in the above class, use this thread to comment on student photos..."/>
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Outstanding Photography System: Peer Feedback 2017 This is a forum for students of the "Outstanding Photography System 2017". If you are in the above class, use this thread to comment on student photos. Here are instructions: 1) Sign into BetterPhoto and upload a photo there if you haven’t already done so. 2) Once uploaded, get the ID# for your photo. To determine your PhotoID, go to the icon in the upper left that looks like pancakes or a hamburger, click My Photos > Manage/Enter. The PhotoID is below the number. Copy this number. 3) Come back to the QnA thread and click “Respond” at the bottom of the page. 4) Enter a description or specific questions or details and then click the “Select” button below the text input box, choosing “1.” Toggle on “Notify” box if you wish to be notified. Click “Submit.” 5) On the right-hand side of the Image Uploader, you’ll see an input box for the PhotoID. Type in this number and then click the “Submit your Photo” button. That’s how you use the "Photo ID" method to pull an existing image into your reply in the QnA thread. Enjoy commenting on each others' photos! And enjoy becoming an even better photographer! Jim
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You want to put that number in the PhotoID field when you are responding. So type in your answer or comments (like I am doing now)... Then choose the number of photos you want to share (in the Upload Image Option) below this text entry box. I will select "1" now to demonstrate. Then on the subsequent page, I will enter an example photoID...
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Hi Susan - I too am having problems uploading. I eventually uploaded one at a time. I put in Photo title, filled in description box, then on the right had side I entered the photo ID# in the appropriate box.
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Thanks. I finally uploaded a few photos, but had to do it as if I had no photo ID. Doing one at a time seems the only other option.
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Ying, Connie and Toni - would love to see your photos but not sure how to upload for viewing. Any ideas.
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Hi, Bett. I am unable to "Add my Camera" to upload my photos. Waiting for a response from BPsupport. My page is an older version, however, I'm not sure on how to refresh to get a newer version to add my camera. Will continue to look for answers until issue is resolved. Thanks for your comment.
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Hi JoPatrice - love your two new photos. The contrast between the two - the door is very striking and the bluegrass is so serene. Beautiful work. Enjoy your day! Bett
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I was having difficulties in uploading my images for this assignment. Inputting one Photo ID# in the box, although I had three (3) photographs to upload, allowed my uploading issue to be resolved. Thanks, Joseph. You helped me to better understand what I needed to do. FYI: Both sets of my Photo ID #s are the same three (3) photographs.
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Hi Toni, Your firefly image along with the title is very powerful. The stark, nearly black and white background perfectly complement your subject's journey. Focusing is always a problem, especially at macro level and especially if your subject is moving. I often find that in the excitement of the moment, I don't see that I've failed to achieve critical focus. I also notice my camera sometimes doesn't focus where I want it to. At that point I go to Youtube and review the videos on how my camera focuses. I often give up trying to guess how the camera focuses and just do it manually! Joe
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Hi Carolynn - in answer to your question - I shot this photo in my make shift studio in my garage. I used a piece of black materiel for the backdrop and for my lighting I used reflector lamps from Home Depot with daylight 5000K bulbs. Bett
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Hi Ying - all I have to say is - it was worth the wait to see your photos. Incredible work. I love them all. Bett
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Candace I had a horrible time also figuring out how to upload. First download them to better photo.com. THEN go to this page and Hit respond on the bottom of this page; then type in something in the text box; then below the text box is the word "select"...click on it and choose 1 and then click on submit. This takes you to the page where you can upload. The box on the verrrrrrrrrrry far right is where you have to manually enter the # assigned to your photo...it did not let me copy and paste. Then you can fill in the info about your photo. Seems there should be an easier process but that is how I got mine in. Carolynn
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Photo 1: Slick Rock Ride (Photo ID 15388243). f/6.3 1/15s, ISO 64, clear skies, early morning. Mountain biker traversing slick rock sandstone through pinyon pine/juniper stands in western Colorado. Photo 2: Geese (Photo ID 15388273). Study in motion. f/10, 1/80s, ISO 200. Early morning, clear skies, northern California.
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Hi Toni, Have you heard back from BPsupport or otherwise figured out where module 2 is located. I have the same issue and have also tried to get an answer.
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Have you heard back from BPsupport or otherwise figured out where module 2 is located. I have the same issue and have also tried to get an answer.
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Hi Toni, I also have not been able to find Module 2. I have sent an email and heard nothing back. Has bpsupport gotten back with you or have you otherwise stumbled into the module?
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Hi Toni - go to www.betterphoto.biz/products/the-outstanding-photograpy-system-2017. It will then ask for your user name and password. The password is the one Better Photo gave us for this particular course. That is how I did it and then when it asked to save password I answered yes then bookmarked the page so I don't have to search for it all the time.
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Hi, Hilding - I've not received any response from bpsupport. Bett was so kind to forward instructions as to how to get into Module 2. Hi, Bett - Thank you so much for the information. I will follow the instructions you've provided. Like, Hilding, I've not received any response from bpsupport regarding my email.
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JoPatrice - love your panning photo - looks great!
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Henri -"Fire On The Rooftops" photograph is very dramatic, indeed. Extremely creative and beautiful to look at. Good job!
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I've fallen behind and will catch up over the next two weeks. Any feedback/suggestions is appreciated. Trying to get a decent pan, this is the best of hundreds of attempts. Best results came from using tracking focus, selecting a target when it was roughly 45 degrees away from being directly in front of me, pressing the shutter release as soon as the camera locked onto the target and trying to keep the subject in the center of the frame as the subject drove by with the camera shooting a burst of five to ten exposures. Not entirely satisfied with result but I need to get to other assignments. Glad this wasn't done with film! Panasonic DMC Lumix FZ1000, 1/60 @ f/4.5, ISO 100, 66mm (ff equiv)
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Focused on flowers and left rooftop restaurant lights blurred with enough detail to set the scene. This is a new technique for me and will go into my composition toolkit next to the rule of thirds! Panasonic DMC Lumix FZ1000, 1.s sec @ f/4.0, ISO 100, 203mm (ff equiv)
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Focused on flowers with sufficient detail of house & flag to set the scene and hopefully, mood. Panasonic DMC Lumix FZ1000, 1/400 s sec @ f/4.0, ISO 100, 394mm (ff equiv)
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I am frustrated with downloading to this page and am giving up on trying. Downloading to this page sometime works and sometimes it doesn't. As you can see by my threads it let me download one photo only then just went to a blank pages. We shouldn't have to go through so many steps to download our photos and we shouldn't have to go through all the past entries to finally get to the new submissions.
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Hi, Bett. I absolutely agree with you. Early on I was having the same issue with downloading my photographs. Joseph helped me to understand by selecting one Photo ID at a time, at that point, I was able to download each photograph. There were times when I felt like "throwing in the towel" because I was so frustrated with the tedious task of trying to get through a process that should not be so difficult. However, you and Joseph helped me to better understand, and now I'm getting ready to listen to the videos in Module 4. I would love to see the completion of your hard work from Module 3. The strong always overcome - no matter the obstacle at hand!
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Bett - the easiest way to upload on this thread is by first uploading to the Betterphoto site, jotting down the id#s of the photos you want to submit, and uploading them one at a time. But I agree that so much scrolling down is tedious, and it would be better if we could see the most recent photos submitted at the top. Another problem you may have encountered is that if your photos are over 2.7 MB, they cannot be uploaded. I had to crop my photos in order to submit them this time. I could not upload anything in RAW form either. I had to convert it to JPEG to upload. I would have liked to submit different photos than I did, but I didn't know how to resize them without cropping parts I really didn't want to take out. If anyone knows how to resize, would appreciate the help.
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Thanks for your replies Susan and Toni. I had downloaded to Better Photo and got id#'s but I could only submit one photo. When I went to submit the HDR version it wouldn't let me add my photo ID# only me comment. I tried several times and gave up. I will try one more time.
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Okay so now I had success. Did nothing different. Must be a bug in this program. I would like to pass on that I just download a new processing program - Topaz Studio. At the moment it is free. It works as a stand alone or as a plug-in with Lightroom, Photoshop and Photoshop Elements. Both my HDR versions were done in Topaz and I think it is worth checking out especially as it is free. Topaz also has non-free plug-ins as well that are quite amazing. I also want to pass on a great photography site - Anne McKinnell. She has a great site you can join for free and get free tips; newsletters and advise plus her photography is extremely inspiring. I took her Lightroom for beginners course and I learned more from her than I have from the expensive book I bought. Sorry for the babble, but I wanted to pass on stuff you may be interested in. Enjoy your day.
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Thanks for not giving up Bett. That HDR photo of the lake is awesome. The sky makes such a difference and I appreciate tips from everyone so please keep sharing. I will have to try Topaz. I do like the simple version of Photomatix. It really enhanced some of my landscape photos. Now I know how some people get the colors, drama, etc in the photos on websites.
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Hi, Bett. Your HDR photograph of the lake is splendid. Thanks for the tips.
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Very nice work on the lake photo! Glad you had success submitting it. Thanks for info on Topaz.
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Adding one of two "shadow" images, not sure if I'm initiating a new thread or not. If not apologies for any confusion. I noticed my shadow in the image when shooting the series for HDR. I was going to take it out but decided to leave it in.
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Hi, Joseph. The way you photograph buildings are definitely on point. You are an incredible photographer. I knew this from the first photographs you submitted. Keep up the wonderful work, and keep learning. Congrats on your " Editor's Pick", pictures. Your HDR photos are very good!
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Okay, pretty sure I messed up on uploading the photos, but they did upload even though I seem to have 2 different versions of the same photo - the regular one and the one in the forum. (Sorry about that BetterPhoto, I will try to do better next time) Anyway. I noticed people were posting their ID Numbers:
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Here's my Module 3 assignment. I took the original photo in the bright daylight, dusk and a little bit past dusk. Then I used my photoshop to edited the three photos you see over here. I know these are not totally "natural" but I hope the right way of using light and some creative editing could add some color to my photo.
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I think its rather strange that no one is receiving response from Better Photo. They are usually very prompt. But I guess everyone got their issues fixed.
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Joseph K. Merton |
Late afternoon light through window into a darkened room. There is an overhead light with a dimmer switch. I used the dimmer to try and balance the overhead light with the window light.
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Turned off overhead light and used available light, basing the exposure on the front of the artificial flowers.
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Joseph K. Merton |
Used flash in TTL mode, camera was set to aperture mode. Not very pleasing but it is a technically correct exposure averaging to 18% grey.
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Joseph K. Merton |
I attempted to use the flash to render the scene as seen by the human eye. I reduced the flash output by 4 EVs and modified exposure in Lightroom to make it as "natural" as possible. It still doesn't look quite right to me because of reflection on the plastic plant stalks as well as the sharp shadows cast by the leaves. That might be improved using a diffuser and maybe bouncing the flash. That will be the purpose of the next set.
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Joseph K. Merton |
This is a Chicken Dancer left over from my daughter's college graduation. According to the diploma in the chicken's hand that was 2006, doesn't seem that long ago! This was made in the living room by the light of a floor lamp behind my right shoulder. The chicken was on top of the piano and the camera was mounted on a tripod maybe twelve feet from the chicken. I metered off the chicken's "feathers" and used the diploma as a reference for white balance. This is what it looks like when I don't use the flash.
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This is a Chicken Dancer left over from my daughter's college graduation. According to the diploma in the chicken's hand that was 2006, doesn't seem that long ago! This was made in the living room by the light of a floor lamp behind my right shoulder. The chicken was on top of the piano and the camera was mounted on a tripod maybe twelve feet from the chicken. I metered off the chicken's "feathers" and used the diploma as a reference for white balance. This is what it looks like when I don't use the flash.
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Using dedicated flash shooting directly at subject in TTL mode. No bounce, no diffuser. This is why I don't use flash too much. By the way, uploads seem verrry slow with errors and double submissions.
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Joseph K. Merton |
Dedicated flash bounced off ceiling in front of chicken
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Joseph K. Merton |
This is a cloth and wire diffuser that slips over the flash head which is then turned vertical. Light comes out the front, top, and sides of the diffuser and this is the result. Notice the inside of the bill. In the previous picture, that area is in shadow. Here it is illuminated. Glare of flash is mostly gone and shadows are softened but not as much as with ceiling bounce. This casts a somewhat sharper shadow than with the bounce flash. Not sure how it would look with a human but I like this better than with bounce but not as well as with available light.
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Joseph K. Merton |
The second diffuser is an inexpensive white plastic oblong globe that fits (poorly) over the vertical flash head. This is better than the first diffuser – that is it gives better results but on the downside, it tends to fall off the flash head. It did reduce the flash output by 1/3 EV but I can’t imagine trying to walk around an event or party with this or forcing it into my bag. We won’t even talk about a duct tape solution! Maybe I should take another look at Gary Fong’s creations, my brother swears by his. All in all, I prefer available light to flash. I can see how flash can give good results especially with modifiers such as reflectors & diffusers. There are times when these tools are essential for capturing the subject but for me, those times are rare!
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However, I am posting other photos to show change in light at different times of day - from morning to mid-day, then early evening and twilight.
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First photo is at mid-day. Accidentally deleted my early morning photo.
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Accidentally deleted my early morning photo.
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Again, taken vertically but when uploaded and posted to gallery, photo comes out as a landscape and gives a distorted appearance not in my original photo. Frustrating!
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